Some Arab/Muslim governments do?
After more than 20 years, who do we blame for the diplomatic stagnation of Somaliland? And, how do we go around this never-ending “mythical Somalia’s Unity” quagmire in order to attain our political goal? We know that, legally speaking, we, Somalilanders have a strong case because we’ve, already, existed as an independent nation (meaning our cause is not in conflict with that “outdated/irrelevant” AU and UN territorial indivisibility act). Not to mention that,
in 1961 Somalilanders said “NO!” to the union with Somalia in a referendum
by 54%. “NON!” a l’union avec la Somalie.
So, to answer the above questions bluntly and humbly, we can, first of all, only
blame ourselves, to certain degree, and of course our past and current governments.
Some will argue that Kosovo, East Timor, Eritrea, South-Sudan, South-Ossetia, Abkhazia, had, all, some powerful political friends such as (respectively) the West/NATO, Russia,…whereas, we, Somalilanders, didn’t and still don’t. Because, for example and unfortunately, our neighbouring Djibouti (former French Somali territory) and the anti-democratic-arab-muslim supposed brothers, sadly ganged up, not only, on our beloved democratic Somaliland but also, and always, gang up on any freedom loving people on this Earth, such as the West-Saharan Republic’s people.
By the way, let’s not forget that Djibouti (this former French Somali Territory) itself rejected the union with Somalia in 1977 and chose to go its separate way. Yet, Djibouti, is against Somalilanders’s wish to go their separate way as well but tirelessly and hypocritically, advertises Somalia’s unity/indivisibility Propaganda. People say:” La malice revêt souvent
le manteau de la sagesse”. That’s Djibouti and Its dictator Mr. I.O.G’s behaviour in the region.
Dishonest, dangerous and malicious!
As to Africa, I’d like to say: ”YOU ONLY GET ONE LIFE, SO LET’S NOT WASTE OUR TIME ON LOSERS”. AFRICA SHOULD CLEAN ITS HOUSE FIRST!
Having said that, we need our, somewhat, passive and inert leaders to approach all friendly nations and sympathetic to our cause, like Russia, Israel, these newly independent countries and certainly not Turkey, Somalia’s corrupt leaders Bankroller. Why not trust Turkey or count on fruitless negotiations with Somalia in Turkey? Because Turkey is never neutral and honest peace broker. It, cruelly, mistreats its own citizens, the Kurdish ethnic groups and denied them, for decades, the basic human rights such as the simple and natural right of teaching and learning their Kurdish language. Turkey still refuses to acknowledge the genocide committed by its army against Armenians. So, for the Turkish government: “Charité bien ordonnée, commence par soi-même”, basically meaning: “Before teaching us moral lessons on Somali brotherhood, Turkey should apply the same kind of morals to itself”.
Speaking of political friends, we all know that some of our so called Arab-muslim brothers, like Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Bahrain, Mauritania, Tunisia, Turkey…etc, all enjoy friendly diplomatic relations with Israel. A move that I applaud and commend in the name of peace and respect.
Therefore why can’t we or shouldn’t we do the same with Israel, the first state who recognised Somaliland in 1960 as an independent state? Why not with Russia or even Venezuela? Are we mentally and psychologically possessed, controlled, brainwashed by the Arab-muslim brotherhood propaganda machine?
We, Somalilanders, (I mean, our leaders), need to stop being naively subservient to some hostile, anti-basic human rights and bellicose states and put our politico-economical interests first.
On top of partying, every year, for May 18th, we, also, have to advocate for our self-determination rights and sovereignty as vehemently, (peacefully of course) as we can. We are, almost, everywhere on this planet. We need an efficient, active and competent LOBBY group set up and funded by the government of Somaliland in order to shoulder our brilliant Foreign affairs minister and reap the fruits of our unfinished democratic, legitimate and peaceful struggle.
We should remember how, tirelessly, the former Yugoslav republics citizens were present day and night, winter and summer, in the streets of everywhere? In other words, they were LOBBYING hard for their freedom.
Again and finally, our political leaders should engage and approach any state willing
to assist us in our cause in order to break this vicious/mythical Somali Unity quagmire.
God bless Somaliland Republic!
By a proud Somalilander in Nouméa, New Caledonia
No wonder our Somalian don't like you, with this kind of attutude No wonder our Somalian brothers hate you, reading this nonsense now I don't like you and your people. Did you even go to school, posting articles online doesn't make you smart, actually makes you look really stupid. THERE IS NO SOMALILAND, there is only muslim SOMALIA, so f..k all you somaliland monkies, love from TURKEY.. LONG live SOMALIA…. Now go run to Israel and see what they are doing to niggs like you…
Hey i think you are confused Somaliland can deal with any country they wish to that includes Israel.
Your country has diplomatic relationship with the Israelis so why are you getting all upset.
Somalia is our brothers just because your government help them a bit that doesn't make it yours ''our somalia don't like you" Listen Turkish there are a lot of things you don't understand so please don't get involve with Somali politics, be good boy or girl and get me a kebab ok.
mr shimbiris what a fool you are .first of you are the type of people who ashames our people .man learn english before you start commenting. my god..second .I thought you said "OUR SOMALIA 'so now we become one again ..let me tell you turkey will always be our brothers and sistes.nomatter what any one say .. .first fix your government that you called them somaliland and then talk about israel or any other countries.and somalia will always be one and the turkish know that too,
you are the biggest fool on earth and you should rather be ashamed of english and not Shimbiris.. secondly you fix your own government that you call 4.5 of course you know what i mean by 4.5 ha, that is how you treat your Somali brothers when comes to politicking, and this means that no minority should be existing your bloody small world, the so called somalia, so cut the crabb please!
If we argue with you fool people will not see the difference. Somalilanders were the brain of Somalia. We are born as leaders and wise. Our elders resolve problems without a gun. Which in this world will join killers and murderes and build a union government. That is a wishful thinking. We are busy building our country without any foreign help and our budget tgis year is 249 milluion dollars, while the Somali government live on hand outs from arabs and europeans. You call yourself a government controlled by African forces. What a shame on the Southerners.
@ Nebula Retina
Do they still put kebabs in rolls in Istanbul instead of pittas? if so what are you doing about it.
@ warsame ….'what are you doing about it' ..is that a real Grammar english. where did these people learn english .did british teach you a prober english or what.lol. I guess not….BY THE WAY SOMALILAND MEANS ….THE LAND OF SOMALIA .
you're mouthy and shows your desperation and hopelessness. shut your stinking mouth up!
Erdogan and his revival of the old Ottoman Empire is failing miserably due to his involvement in the Syrian conflict and goes who is having the last laugh? Of course Somallanders are. Down with Turkey. Down with imperialism. Long live Israel.
Like I said, we, Somalilanders, should not waste our time on losers such as Nazi-Genocidal Turkey which kills its own kurdish citizens, so-called arab-muslim bros or even on that hopeless Africa. Turkey is the new Apartheid! Turkey denies kurdish their basic right to learn their language. No wonder why Europe refused Turkey to join EU. Europe refused nazi sympatizers and killers of their own citizens to join EU. NEBULA GO BACK TO HISTORY AND LEARN IT. OH! BY THE WAY TURKEY HAS AN EMBASSY IN ISRAEL, DID I TELL YOU BOUT THAT? LONG LIVE KURDISTAN AND SOMALILAND! Et…VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE!
This is an excellent article and I am up to the view point which this article is sending to all proud Somalilanders.
I have always wanted to see our president Silanyo visting Isreal as this is the only democratic country in the Middle East as part of our policy for self determination.
Very bad article
For your article to be rated good, you need to be impartial in your writing, whilst maintaining the point of view you want to put across to the reader.
You missed the very basic critical writing and therefore, this blog is just so desperate for any articles, or just as all Somalis go, you might be the administrator friend/family member;
So let me hit you on the other side of the coin:
1. Islamically, you're not allowed by any way or mean to support or aid killing Muslims and by having ties with Israel you just support Israel's economy, which in turn, Israel's weapons are used to kill more Muslims;
2. if so called Arabs/Muslims do it, then it is not a justification for you to do it;(as if they're teaching you what is right and wrong, huh?)
3. Russia and Israel are the worst enemies of human rights, and I've noticed how you went on turkey, while turning the blind eye on how Israel treats the Jews who originally hails from Arabia/east Africa
I could go on and on, but it is just a waste of time talking to secular minded like you, but my Muslims brothers, please do not use the old Jews tactic that allows anyone to reach their goal by any means, any facility available. We are Muslims, we have our values.
Ilays, Arabs more liked Israels than other black muslims because they are cousins, but consider you as a slave due to your dark skin.
Pitty you, you just showed your sheer ignorance! Israelies hate arab/ethio/sudani jews only because they're not eurojews; Most arab jews who hails from Iraq, Yemen or Egypt aren't black, but still, they're treated like a fifth column
Israelis treating African jews bad. What about the Somalis killing and raping the Bajunis and Wagosha tribe in the Jubba raea. All farms belonging to the people have been taken and ethnically cleaned from their home area. 50,000 Somali bantus have gone to USA. Shame on Somalis in the South for your wrong deeds. Even the town of KIsmayu have been cleared of the indiginous people the Bajunis, and now Somalis claim is there.
Brother ilyas, listen to this:1-" An Editorial is an article in a newspaper or on other media outlets presenting the opinion of the readers and editors. It's not a news reporting article which has to be neutral. In other words, it's a news or a subject analyzing method based on one's interpretation. Therefore, people can express their opinion in the most subjective way they wish. Me, myself and I only expressed this opinion. So, stop attacking other people.
2-Islam, Judaism, and Christianity interacted, with each other during the centuries and, of course,
during our Prophet's era (SAWS), in the development of their respective communities and, consequently,
in that of the world. So again, you and your FAQASHS stop paternalizing people under the guise and false pretense of knowing Islam more than anybody or knowing what would be good and proper for everybody. Stop misinterpreting religion and corrupting people. Just mind your own business and GO CLEAN your MESSY Somalia or Mogadishu. SOMALILAND is free too deal with any country of their choice.
By the way, whatever is going on in the Middle-East is purely Arab-Israeli conflict based on land dispute.
We wish them Good luck. My conflict is with the FAQASHS/NAZIs of Somalia and their Sympathizers.
So, take it easy pal and learn the difference between an opinion Editorial and News article! In other words, you're missing the basics or the ABC of the media lessons.
Im not an administrator here to stop you writing whatever you wish to write, but your opinion will not be respected if you play hide and display some parts of the real picture. Everyone knows that Russia is a commonest regime who just silence any voice that may object their ideology, and we have seen it all the way through. It was not that far, I think, when we heard about the Greenpeace activists, eh? It doesn't mean however, that you cannot have ties with them, im just discussing your article. Coming to Israel, they have commited janacides upon janacides that no one in the moddern world did, but yet, in your eyes, they're not terrorists, but turkey. Understanding and ordering the important, the less important is very crucial part of your belief. Any Muslim who reads your article will be shocked, to say the least. To us, as Muslims, (you're not included of course),our Islam is the most important, somaliland somalia, puntlnad, or waqwaqland, is just a matter of this first life.
Brother ilyas, listen to this:1-" An Editorial is an article in a newspaper or on other media outlets presenting the opinion of the readers and editors. It's not a news reporting article which has to be neutral. In other words, it's a news or a subject analyzing method based on one's interpretation. Therefore, people can express their opinion in the most subjective way they wish. Me, myself and I only expressed this opinion. So, stop attacking other people.
2-Islam, Judaism, and Christianity interacted, with each other during the centuries and, of course,
during our Prophet's era (SAWS), in the development of their respective communities and, consequently,
in that of the world. So again, you and your FAQASHS stop paternalizing people under the guise and false pretense of knowing Islam more than anybody or knowing what would be good and proper for everybody. Stop misinterpreting religion and corrupting people. Just mind your own business and GO CLEAN your MESSY Somalia or Mogadishu. SOMALILAND is free too deal with any country of their choice.
By the way, whatever is going on in the Middle-East is purely Arab-Israeli conflict based on land dispute.
We wish them Good luck. My conflict is with the FAQASHS/NAZIs of Somalia and their Sympathizers.
So, take it easy pal and learn the difference between an opinion Editorial and News article! In other words, you're missing the basics or the ABC of the media lessons.
woow…. mr proud !! calm down insulting would not give you what ever your looking,.well brothers and sisters of somaliland .as we know we all speak one language and pray to one allah so if you somalilanders want to separate away from somalia come up another name rather than somaliland .becouse somaliland mean the land of somalia my dear brothers and sister .just like djibouti they are somali too .so please I m not faqash or dir or isaaq ..Im just butting the fact in the right order .and again qabiil would not solf your broblems brothers we are in 2014 my god wake up people .
mustafat.. mustamaxamed? i don't know what your name is, but faqash is not an insult, that's your fascism or nazism no more no less. Did you forget your faqashism genocide you unleashed on our innocent peace-loving people? how can you still call us brothers and sisters, are you mad? shame on you mustamaxamad somali. we are not somalis, we are Somalilanders.
We need to wage an all out campaign to south America, Russia, China, and Israel. The time to wage this kind of campaign is now. Somaliland is the Jewell of the East, and we should not go back. let us also build our army, nacvy and air force, to defend ourselves against Zoomalia and Muuq-Disho.
@ osmanja ..defend against Somalia . wow .what fool you are .if you just want to build an army to defend against Somalia .then you're not going any were with your stupidity.wow to build an army just against Somalia .I didn't knew how afraid the somalilanders were against Somalia untill now..by the way SOMALILAND MEANS ..THE LAND OF SOMALIA.just wanted to remind every one that's all..
FOLKS, THE ARTICLE CAN SAY WHATEVER, BUT AS FAR AS THE GOSL IS CONCERNED,
BEING A NEUTRAL DEMOCRACY WHO'S FRIENDLY WITH ALL NATIONS, THERE'S NO CAUSE
FOR ALARM OR PANIC. TURKEY IS A GREAT OIC-NATO COUNTRY AND FIRMLY AMONGST THE
WORLD PLAYERS OF THE 21ST CENTURY. THE GOSL KNOWS THEIR FRIENDS AND FOES.
THEREFORE, NEBULA RETINA AND ILYAS SHOULD NOT BE UPSET BY THE ARTICLE AND
THE BLOGGERS WHO SUPPOSEDLY PRETEND THAT THEY ARE GOOD SOMALILANDERS
WHICH IS WRONG ACRIMONIES. BOTH ISRAEL AND TURKEY ARE GOOD WORLD STAGE
ACTORS, AND SO THE ARABS, THEREFORE LET'S NOT BE BOTHERED MUCH ADO OKAY.
CHEERS.
a province of Somalia will always remain as such no matter where at ends of world the answer is universal NO. NO one can do it.
you are day dreamer. gets your fact right. Somaliland was a country and the first one in the failed union with Somalia to become independent. We are near there to become a prt of international community.
What is up Somaliland and israael? There is no such case in history unless one is made up for mass ignorant consumption…….
Oh there is one time in 1949 Somalia-Libya-Italy case @UN
Jama get your fact right. You were not even born. I know history and fact when Somaliland became independent in 1960 Israel was among the first country to recognise us. What the writer says is a fact, we need to change our tactics and start looking for friends some where else. Friends who will provide funds and scholarship for our bright Somaliland students.
Russia is trying to come back to the USSR and no one has time for that, Venezuela seems to be in trouble.
Israel seems to be a better option, it solves our Arab problem and they know about keeping Islamists down. Best thing would be to get training, logistics etc with them and in exchange they have access to build a air force station in Somaliland for when Arabs want to act up.
Israel's technology and industry can make Somaliland the best country in Africa.
I diasgre with your Djibouti-bashing – they are looking out for their national interests and you cant blame them for that. They calculate, correctly in my view, that a recognised Somaliland will be a competition for investment, takeover part of her trade with Ethiopia, overshadow it in the region and most of concvern to Djibouti, empower their tradional foes the Gadabursi who will now own to perpetuity Zeila.
But Ia gree with you on dealing with all Nations. I think we should cut deals with not only Israel(many Arabs do) but also North Korea and Iran. And possibly the Unrecognised states in Russia/Georgia. We can allow DPRK to open an arms bazaar in Hargeisa for its African market. In fact we can go completely rogue and make tons of money and gain inclaculable amounts of power. Dimaonds, Gold, Counter-feit..
…piracy ahoy, dodgy Rolexes, 'blood' diamonds who cares, Bellarussian arms manufacturers, little Colombian guys who who want to fly and ferry their wacky-backy to saudia..? Why not. 80% Tax of course.
that way not only will we make money, we will get free arms for our armed forces.
But we wil lose our soul. Our moral being if you like. Did we fight and die by the thousand to become a criminal entity?
when I see the way America, EU, Arab League, UN and to lesser extent African Union humiliate us and deny us our dignity and self-determination, something they are so willing to give to our European counterparts, I do lose hope and say why respect the World and its laws and norms when clearly does not respect you?
We must resist that feeling though. Justfied it maybe but that is very different from being right or wise or moral.
Shallow minded politics,the issue of Israel is a non starter at present, why alienate the few friends in the region. Also Israel is a small player on the world stage..don't believe the hype.As far as a common Muslim brotherhood, this is between peoples not countries. Arabs generally don't like each other, so why should we be a special case. Arabs only respect strength, that's their world view.
Whether we like it or not our neighbors are our neighbors and an independent Somaliland with secure borders and a robust military will generate respect.
I am abit confused about your response. Are you for/against/agnsotic about estabslihing relations with Isreal? And actually you are dead wrong about Israels' influence in the region and beyonnd. It si by far the most technologically adavanced country in the region. It is world leadesr ins oen technologies including dessrt farming, water preservation, hybridisationbs and so on. It has Ameriac in its pocket- if Isarel lobbies for us in Washington, Obama will come to Hargeisa next day and kiss the backside of every Camel in Somaliland.
So where do you stand?
Dear proud S.lander,
Let me just tell you why Somalilanders are usually fear stricken about making diplomatic contacts with the Jewish State. While you guessed correctly that Judaism/Christianity and finally Islam have all influenced each other, what you have overlooked is that in fact, a large part of islam's ideology/holly books is actually an ancient Arab polemic against the Jewish thought up by the composers of the Quran and/or other writings of the time,to sanctify the hating or even the loathing of Jewish people! We all remember that 'God had cursed them story' that we were fed to as children. It's crucially for this reason that such unprovoked hatred of the Jewish people by moslem non Arabs is a given in almost all converted societies. And why? Because we were all raised with this humanly unfathomable loathing of the Jewish just because god had said so! And Islam being a religion never allowing for an independent critical human questioning,we have all internalized it. While this religiously sanctioned hating of Jewish people is an old prejudice, what is new and adds a new dimension to it, is that the Arabs want us,we the converted peoples,to also agitate for and hate Israel for they also are guilty of stealing an Arab land! Now a cursory glance of history would reveal these same Jewish do have deep roots in these parts of the world thousands of years before even there was a Christianity never mind Islam! So to round it up, Somaliland politicians are only acting out,or at the least are unaware of,that old age prejudice that they(all of us Arab/Islam converted folk) they had been taught. Going near the subject of that internalized hate or even considering to do so,is simply like confronting the boogyman!
Compliments for Proud Somalilander for raising his issue!
Dear Rhoda,
You really and courageously went straight to the heart of the matter. I hope your remarks will give, these Mogadishu radicals and their sympathizers, bit of historical, logical and moral insight . The bottom line is that we just don't want to be proxy people for other races/people in the name of their politico-whatever ideology/interests. As you said, it's about time that we, Somalilanders, confront arab boogyman and prioritize our national interests.
They, Faqashs, have hard time accepting, respecting or have difficulty understanding what are " human rights and freedom of opinion and political choice". In other words, Democracy scares them bcz the only thing they know is to say:" Xamar aa laga daara no". Meaning, It's my way or I'll murder you. That's all they learn and know. No wonder why we see them, day and night, going downwardly on this slippery self-destructive slope. In french, people say:"Les chiens aboient mais la caravane passe". Which means, the dogs bark but the caravan continues its journey. So, Somaliland shouldn't waste time on losers of that defunct/disfunctional Somaliwayn myth. Good job sister!
Dear proud S.lander,
Let me just tell you why Somalilanders are fear stricken about making diplomatic contacts with the Jewish State. Why you guessed correctly that Juedism/Christianity and finally Islam have influenced each other,what you have overlooked is that infact a large part of islam's ideology is actually an ancient Arab polemic thought up by the composers of the Quran and/or other writings of the time,to sanctify the hating or even the loathing of Jewish people! It's crucially for this reason that such unprovoked hate of the Jewish people by moslem non Arabs is a given in almost all converted societies. And why? Because we were all raised with this humanly unexplained loathing of the Jewish just because god had said so! Islam being a religion never allowing for an independent critical human questioning,we have all internalized it. While this religiously sanctioned hating of Jewish people is an old age,what is new and adds a new dimension to it,is that the Arabs want us,we the converted,to also agitate and hate Isreal for they also are guilty of stealing an Arab land! Now a cursory look of history would show these same Jewish having roots in these parts of the world thousands of years before even there was a Christianity never mind Islam! So to round it up,Somaliland politicians are only acting out,or at the least are unaware of,in the manner that they(all of us Arab/Islamic converted folk)had been thought to think about anything to do with the Jewish,nothing more nothing less.
Dear Rhoda,
You really and courageously went straight to the heart of the matter. I hope your remarks will give, these Mogadishu radicals and their sympathizers, bit of historical, logical and moral insight . The bottom line is that we just don't want to be proxy people for other races/people in the name of their politico-whatever ideology/interests. As you said, it's about time that we, Somalilanders, confront arab boogyman and prioritize our national interests.
They, Faqashs, have hard time accepting, respecting or have difficulty understanding what are " human rights and freedom of opinion and political choice". In other words, Democracy scares them bcz the only thing they know is to say:" Xamar aa laga daara no". Meaning, It's my way or I'll murder you. That's all they learn and know. No wonder why we see them, day and night, going downwardly on this slippery self-destructive slope. In french, people say:"Les chiens aboient mais la caravane passe". Which means, the dogs bark but the caravan continues its journey. So, Somaliland shouldn't waste time on losers of that defunct/disfunctional Somaliwayn myth. Good job sister!
Well said previous folks. Mohammed was mad the Jews were like dude chill we dont want what your selling, be cool so he tripped out like a the by tch that he was and made them the human counter part to the devil in Islam
Doesnt that remind you of the Mad Mullah when he was refused by folks he used to write bad poetry about them. Man old dou ch bagsbe having the same blueprint to by tch made behavior
To hell with Turkey they were stealing women and children from eastern europe to enslave they would have done the same if it were us. Abrahamic religions only turn people into monsters bc their texts authorize slavery, killing of pows, sexual slavery of female captives if they refuse to convert or marry their rapist. Aint no body got time for that in 2014!
Bro nice article…very well imagined…but don't you think its time you visit your Doctor….no offense just free advice…..Somaliland Kulahaa…..