WHAT SOMALILAND WANTS?
This is the question asked most frequently by both the Somalis and non-Somalis. I shall state the answer to this question as simply as possible:-
1- We want recognition, a full and complete recognition.
2- We want justice, equal justice under the law; we want justice applied equally to all, regardless of class.
3- We want equality of opportunity. We want equal membership in society with the best in civilized world.
4- We want our people to be allowed to establish a separate State, or territory of their own. Since we cannot get along with the Southern Somalia in peace and equality, after giving them 30 years of our sweat blood and received in return some of the worst treatment human being have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by Somalia’s government, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state.
5- We want every Somaliland man and woman to have the freedom to accept or reject their votes, or rights, and establish a land of their own.
6- We do not believe that after 30 years of free or nearly free labour, sweat and blood, which has helped Somalia ‘s government and some people become rich and powerful, when so many thousands of our people do not have justice and freedom. There are some of the things that we, the Somalilanders want for our people in our home land, we want peace, freedom, equal justice and to protect Human rights with dignity.
NO MORE OR LESS
PEACE AND MILK
ANIIS A. ESSA. HEAD
SOMALILAND ADVOCACY GROUP
WASHINGTON DC USA
ANIIS@YAHOO.COM
MGoth, you said: ''1-We want recognition, a full and complete recognition.
2- We want justice, equal justice under the law; we want justice applied equally to all, regardless of class.
3- We want equality of opportunity. We want equal membership in society with the best in civilized world''.
1-When you say we, who are you referring to? Is it the separatists Is@@q's like you, or the people of Awdal and Khaatumo who clearly stated that they don't want to be part of your (Is@@q separatists) agenda.
2-How can you say we want justice when you (separatists Is@@q's) are the ones that oppresses the likes of Awdal and Khaatumo, and at the same time holding a corrupt referendum whereby 90% of the participant hail from one clan.
3- How can you seek equal membership in society, when you (Is@@q separatists) are society oppressors in North-Somalia.
You can scream ''SEPARATION TODAY, SEPARATION TOMORROW, SEPARATION FOREVER'' as long as you feel like. The IC knows the reality on the ground, and frankly all Somalis know it too, and it is for that reason why your pathetic hoax never got off the ground. I suggest you go back to your room and finish your moaning period there.
ANIIS A. ESSA. HEAD
SOMALILAND ADVOCACY GROUP
WASHINGTON DC USA…………………….You said: ''1-We want recognition, a full and complete recognition.
2- We want justice, equal justice under the law; we want justice applied equally to all, regardless of class.
3- We want equality of opportunity. We want equal membership in society with the best in civilized world''.
1-When you say we, who are you referring to? Is it the separatists Is@@q's like you, or the people of Awdal and Khaatumo who clearly stated that they don't want to be part of your (Is@@q separatists) agenda.
2-How can you say we want justice when you (separatists Is@@q's) are the ones that oppresses the likes of Awdal and Khaatumo, and at the same time holding a corrupt referendum whereby 90% of the participant hail from one clan.
3- How can you seek equal membership in society, when you (Is@@q separatists) are society oppressors in North-Somalia.
You can scream ''SEPARATION TODAY, SEPARATION TOMORROW, SEPARATION FOREVER'' as long as you feel like. The IC knows the reality on the ground, and frankly all Somalis know it too, and it is for that reason why your pathetic hoax never got off the ground. I suggest you go back to your room and finish your moaning period there.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders you cannot talk about justice when you kill and intimitate the peoples of Borama, Zaylac(gudabursistate) and dhulbahante state.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders your referendum is rejected because kh@ldaans are majority in northern region of Somalia, we will not recognize ur clannist referendum.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders you will not ictiraaf by s1cking cadaan g1us, and introducing german p0rn industry.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders you talk about genocide committed by SNA. Let me refresh your mind: SNA also killed hawiye people, darood people. Stop bi1ching and be a man like us.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders u claim to be democracy when fellow isaacs say there was fraud kkkk
Dear kh@ldaanlanders only some isaac are pro-secession, the rest of isaac, gudabursi, issa, dhulbahante and warsengali are pro-unity.
Dear Kh@ldaanlanders the international community does not recognize your clan enclave.
Awdalstate, Khatumostate, Maakhirstate are free from clan enclave kh@ldaanland.
🙂 The Faqash their off-srpings and their Donkeys sound very brave while hiding behind Amisom tanks.
Come out from behind your Bantu Colonial Masters and future progenitors of your Somalia-Italia-fufuderation.
Somaliland-Republic had far less in 1984 when 3000-hungry young men turned your Kacaan into a dustbin without sweat. 22-years later you live in occupation and you have the nerve to comment while half the children running around naked on your Capital streets aren't even Somali???
The name Somalia-Italia-Federation is unfitting to a diluted half Bantu Nation of Illegitimate mongrels. Within a Decayed your Adults will be Majority non-Somali since we have waited 22-years what is 10-more years to witness your utter self annihilation and genetic eradication???
Mere Blink of an eye. 🙂
LOOOOOOOOOL fufuderation ….. you are a funny man
Before the Hawiye created USC they were the other halve of the SNM so how do you explain that ? matter of facts the vice president of the SNM from 1984 to 1987 was one of the founders of USC AUN Ali Mohamed Osoble Wardeegle and guess who was the president.
And now when his people are the once suffering instead of repaying the debt you actually wish even greater harm on them oh how i'm relieved that isaaqs like you are a minority within the clan
You want recognition you got it, take your khadaan mud village and from your delusional country from there. If you lay your eyes on khaatumo state, awdal state or maakhir state we will rip your hearts out.
correction form
I am the so-called khaatumo place and i have 2 darood wh0res in my small, smelly room
No to daroodism
death to the darood rats lets throw them into the sea and then unity would be possible
viva irir samaale
subxaanallah. Death is xaq. however your hateful spat just shows your level and size of your brain. so it is your choice if you choose to have a simple brain.
@Abdiwahab
hey man take your mud village anywhere you like but we will not tolerate this land grab by Isaaq.
khaatumo state, awdal state and maakhir state belongs to Somalia and is non negotiable .
Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera, Erigavo and Gabiley is predominantly Isaaqs so take these mud villages and create your khadaan delusional country or else I am gonna get one of those little wooden sticks and beat the hell out of YOU.
waah waah stop crying u jeberti belly dancer, the people of somaliland are united more than ever to achieve the holy grail of independence that we threw away on the dark day of 1/7/1960. our struggle with the wanlaweyn/faqash axis of evil is not one borders or land but one of existance and im sure that with god's grace we will bulldoze our enemies obstructing our path to self-determination and shall use their skulls to pave our road into freedom and dignity under the name the "REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND"
ALLAHU AKBAR THE STRUGGLE IS JUST ABOUT TO START
Garoodiland also wants recognition and it wants separation yesterday, today and tomorrow. Let us all pretend we are all crazy like the angry grievers. No one is listening guys; UK will reinstate its Mogadishu Embassy, US government now recognizes Hassan's government—-what else will tell you that its game over?
Do you see Taiwan crying no they suck it up like real people.
-Let us talk if you survive post Amisom?
2-state dialogue will fail all relations will be broken off between the two states it is in the interest of the international community to prevent outright WAR and an upsurge in people migration. We will enter the Era of Mediated 2-STATE demarcation and Perhaps Amisom troops in the border between Gerowe and Tukaraq so you can enjoy your share of amisom.
Hello Dear Lady Kayse where were you and now your coming with your filthy comments. I though you had become tired of complaining and underrating our beloved The Republic Of Somaliland. OOH GOD SAVE OUR BELOVED COUNTRY SOMALILAND From these Evals like This lady Kayse with her suffering disease of hatred.
What pathetic looser are you keyse?. you brainless ass go and die with your pathetic crap words. that sourtherners should never learn their own lessons unless we go and show them what the hell on the earth means
If Awdal and SSC weren't valuable in resources, they would have let them go a long time ago ,and created their own country with in their own territory. But the agenda of the separatist is is to take as much resources and land as possible under the pretext of the British colonial boarders, which is flawed in the eyes of Somalis and the IC. So if you truly want recognition and a solution to the current limbo just take your land and go your marry way.
Even though that this is a possible solution. There are people like me who see value in our brothers of the North staying in within the framework of Somalia. Just like PuntLand , Galmudug, JubbaLand and any other future Somali state.
Regional administrations will have their duty and responsibility to the people of their region and Federal Government will have their Duty in the Over all good of the Somali people. The Upper House of the Somali Federal Parliament will consist of Representative of the Member States. Also since every branch of Government will have their duty and responsibility, no one in government can do what they simply wish, the whole propose of a federal system was to have proper checks and balances, so the mistakes of the past will not be made again.
So if your a secessionist complaining of the past, then you have no excuses for not participating now.
So stop making BS excuses and acting like you're the only ones who suffered during the civil war and the last 21 yrs. There are people who lost everything, living in misery in refugee camps who have never done anything to anyone.
Lets us as a people stop the BS and get on to productive things, like strengthening our economy and other non trivial things, so maybe one day we can compete and surpass with the world powers as a proud and strong nation, who can not be manipulated by clan or regional issues. Lets make Somalia prosperous from north to south. We are a proud Nation, who can do great things, if we as a people will it.
Imagine that the whole north eastern part of the united states was systematically destroyed by the United States forces, whole cities like New York, Boston and Philadelphia being carpet bombed and the rest of the country said swee t f uck all, and then the Marines started to attack those fleeing the cities making sure that no one got out alive.
Thats not even counting the Mass graves the poisoning of well, what if the American Armed forces started to poison the water systems in certain cities? How American would the North Eastern United States feel? How Somali or Muslim did you think we felt? And when we even try to say what happened to us you try to shut us down and say hateful words or claim that we all suffered equally. And you have nerve to wonder why we dont want anything to do with you?
No the suffering was not equal, your suffering came at your own hands, ours came at the hands of all Somalis!
What about the Southerners that suffered the same fate? The former regime fought anyone that opposed his presidency and unfortunately SNM was one of the rebel groups that opposed Bare, You captured Cities, killed soldiers and the government responded with force. May god bless those that lost their lives, no one is denying lots of innocent people lost their lives, sadly that's whats happening in Syria now. But separation is not the answer.
Did the somali armed forces systematically destroy any of your cities they way they went into Somaliland? Did you have the entire military force and power of the government hell bent on wiping you off the planet? Did you see your fellow clansmen being killed on national tv while the nation stood there watching as if they were not Somalis?
The SNM did capture soldiers and sent them back without their equipment of course but never killed POWs as Barre did, nor did they harm civilians and everyone knows that.
Separation is the answer for us because WE do NOT trust our well being and those of our children at the hands of those who did this to us!
@ComeAgain
subxanallah please stop fabricating stories with your carpet bombing crap. mohamed siad barre was a dictator who would kill anyone who threatens his regime. The first people to taste his roar were infact his fellow darods (Majerteen) where the SNA would go on a rampage and randomly kill dozen of Majerteens.
Mohamed siad is no different than that of Syrian dictator assad whos kills his people through air strikes or gaddafi who littered the road between Benghazi and Ajdabiyah with millions of humans corpses.
Long live
long live
Somaliland
and no place else
death to Somali
Somaliland people made a historic decision in May 18, 1991 to withdraw from the ill-timed union with FAQASH. Neither USA nor anyone else will be able to persuade Somalilanders to change that momentous decision. We defeated the most celebrated army in sub-Saharan Africa with few die-hard SNM freedom fighters and we will do the same thing again if the new appointed and disguised FAQASH ever think that few mercenaries from Somaliland and the USA will change the desire by Somalilanders to peruse what they deemed to be their inalienable right to have free and recognized Somaliland. To quote late Dr. Ibrahim Maygag Samatar a distinguish professor, politician, liberator and states man” we will remain an independent Somaliland if it takes us for hundred years, after all we made it without significant lift from the international communality”
Wa Bilaahi Tawfiq.
naya you better get your fat futo back in the kitchen.
SEPARATION TODAY, SEPARATION TOMORROW, SEPARATION FOREVER
This is the slogans of the KKK
Walee idor people are very crazzzy in so many ways if you look closelly. they always talk about we are country all those B*sh staff. where is the country? zero,zada. this anoouncement from US was last BLOW to somaliland region. from now on your president is hassan culusow dhuxulow fiidow.
Warsame,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk,
the real snm were fighting for greater somalia
not for separation my bro long live waqooyi and somalia blue n white star for waqoori
Seems Aniis is confusing Clannish grievances with the rights of an independent Nation. First of all the notion that certain Clan group speaks for the rights and aspirations of all the inhabitants of the North is rather arrogant, misinformed and down-right illogical. Majority (about 95%) of the none-Isaaq clans in the North don't condone the idea of seccession or believe the fact that the Kangaroo Administration in Hargeisa represents them. They don't
Other countries had worst dictators of the era: Idi Amin, Mengistu, Bedel Bokasso, Mabutu of Zaire… But all these countries either totally put that dark history behind are re-build their countries successfully or are on the road to do that.
Why can't Somalis too get on with similar process instead of creating X-lands that serve nothing more than divide people along clans like Aniis is advocating?????????
I'm sorry to say that you look more inclined to clannish as you already started finger pointing to certain clans. Instead, you were supposed to raise a non clannish and valid points as to why you are against the sovereignty of Somaliland. On the other hand, I have not seen a single pro Somalilander who advocates for a specific clan other than what the majority of Somalilanders want. Besides, if one clan happens to be the majority of a particular place, then would you say that the majority have no rights because they belong to one clan?
Anyway, in this modern world the majority has the final word and you can look at what has been happening for the last 100 years in Northern Ireland where the minority have always wanted to unite with the Republic of Ireland but couldn't succeed their dream, simply because the majority of the Northern Ireland want to remain under the United Kindom of Great Britain.
Warsuge:
I'm simply stating the facts (not just pointing fingers) as articulated in other discussions like Goth's article. My main objective with regard to Somaliland is that it's not based on democratic principle as is practiced in the civilized world, rather it's based on Clan. By that I mean, your rights, freedom and advancement in the society does not depend on your knowledge, skill or hard word but simply your clan status. Like the Marehaan of yesteryears if one is same clan as Silanyo, then he or she is assured of wealth accumulation, presitigious job and basically given more access to resources than others…. that's the reality and reason why a lot of people in the North are losing faith. How is that different from the ruling Marehaan of yesterday??? its deja vu again
Cont: Warsuge:
With regard to Norther Ireland. one little item you convieniently didn't disclose is that, the main difference between the minority and majority is religion. one side is protestant (that want to remain with UK) while the other is Catholic. what's the main difference among Somalis that differenciates Somaliland from others???? And after 100 years there is no solution in N. Ireland yet .. is that how you envision Somaliland to be???
To Osman Abdirahman somalis said " Nirig xaarani hal xalal ah ma dhasho " which means unlawfull unification will never bring a democratic and equal society, majority population of somaliland didn't see their interest in southern somali, and in order not to avoid not to condone, within the non Isaaq clans who inhabitant in somaliland sees their interest in somaliland seccession if they are not just prejudice being or cousins of other clans.