President Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud (Silanyo) and members of his entourage came under intense grilling during a press conference held yesterday in London ,this after members of Somaliland Diaspora in the UK demanded to know what we’re the polices and agenda set by Somaliland government for the upcoming London talks between Somaliland and Somalia which are due to be begin on the 3rd of May this year.
The Somaliland Leader speaking at the press conference first thanked members of Somaliland Diaspora living in the UK for their unrelenting support in which he said “my deepest gratitude goes to the courageous people of Somaliland living in the UK for their undying devotion and patriotism to protect and advance the interest and the causes of this nation.
President Silanyo took the opportunity to once again reiterate his Government position on the upcoming talks which are to be held in London in May 2013 by saying, “ My Government position is clear on matters pertaining the upcoming talks which by the way is to find ways to Foster close collaboration on issues of mutual interest with our neighbor as two distinct and different nations ‘which I believe is in our best interest, and does not diminish or damage our self-determination or sovereignty in anyway whatsoever.
“We shall not accept any conditions which undermines, diminishes or goes against our much cherished will of self-determination and sovereignty’ anything short of this shall force us to cease all engagements in the upcoming talks, said President Silanyo.
President Silanyo urged fellow Somaliland Politicians to abstain from activities that will hinder or damage the ongoing talks with Somalia and the principal agreements reached at the London meeting.
Lastly President Silanyo touched briefly on the accomplishments made by government since coming to power 2 years ago mainly in the fields of education ,health ,Infrastructure and commerce among many others.
Goth M Goth
Somalilandpress.com
Hey presto,
Accomplishment? Achievements? I wonder what Siilaanyo Administration has accomplished? Hit-and-miss management? Corruption leading from one avenue to another? Embezzling Public funds? Enriching those who are already rich? Absentees presidency? Running the affairs of the country by an ad hoc appointments? These are what Siilaanyo Adminsitration has accomplished.
Hanad,
this is too much. Are you serious?
Actually he has more dignity than you, because despite him being pro separatists, at least he is not a blind follower like you.
Truth10,
Just hate and enmity againt Somaliand people, especially isaaqis, is what makes you talk and trouble.
What else that makes you rant and rave after Somaliland? You have no opinion, no ideas, no sugestion.
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Hiirsi
daroods will always hate issaqs because issaqs are superior. Lets stop being polite and state facts, issaqs are the aristocrats of somalis and daroods are the Untouchables or underclass.
Looool how many of you are abandonned child from a Darood father ?
I'm a southerner, not darood mate. And I don't hate Is@@q's, is just I am against the separatists BS lies. You have no other supporters in your secession than your triangle (Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera). And even there you don't have all of them behind you.
Thruth10
This man is in a tough place.the warning that come week ago had nothing to Amison as was reported by the media. because the U.S.A told amison to do that. there's more deeper problem is going on that they need to handle privately. When Siilanyo was in Kenya and met group of CIA officers and Embassy officials a lot was showing to him and why the decision they took was wise one and he was grilled and chastised and the Americans had a lot of evidence transcripts phone records and how deep his government is involved with alshababa and foreign fighters. So they told him. there's only two explanation here.You either incompetent and senile or you're up to your neck in it. We know what we know but do tell us.Which he claimed he had no idea and the American told him you have a lot of cleaning to do. i guess he can be forgiven all he has in his plate.
I heard something like that too
why are people so tribalist here?
Lol, what have they dig them self a massive hole, and are still digging it. Look at their faces, they don't know how to get out of it. They are desperately trying to figure out how to turn things around. They know the dream of secession is over, because the none-Is@@q's north-west Somalis left them in the dark. And without them they are nothing. There was even clashes among them at the so called press conference. What a day of grieving's for the separatists, what a day.
Truth10,
Clashes of ideas are a sign of democracy, a kind of mental development. Keeping sitting where you were in 21 years? You are neither the candle that spreads the light nor the mirror that reflects it. Isaaq are both the candle and mirror. Isaaq people will no be your eys, your minds, your ears, your living-light house. And you cannot get yourself out dirty mud.
I said clashes only, not clashes of ideas. Don't fabricate things the same way you tried to fabricate your fabricated democracy. Everyone in that press conference is Is@@q, so what democracy are you talking about? It seems that the people of the little triangle (consisting Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera called Waqooiyi galbeed and north-west Toogdheer) have hold amongst them, a press conference, referendum and elections. And yet they claim lands and its people who never participated or endorsed the whole secession agenda. I advice you before things get really ugly in the future, stick to your triangle land and call it whatever you want.
We can crush you n expell u any time we feel like. But u r nothing, so just wail man.
LOL, stop embarrassing yourself you fool.
Democracy or Sharia? Subhanallah.
Sharia means law in Arabic. People make contracts with each other according to law which allows people like you to walk in the streets safely and you are expected to leave other pedestrians in peace.
So keep your subhanallah to yourself and look after your children instead of contracting out to gaalo welfare system.
Well said mohamed, you need to educate the uneducated.
what is this N-igga on about?Sharia is the moral code and religious law of Islam. Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting. Though interpretations of sharia vary between cultures, in its strictest definition it is considered the infallible law of God—as opposed to the human interpretation of the laws . So f off with your BS as western secularist ideas.
Well done honourable president Silaanyo, Continue to care the lamp of democracy and the expressed aspiration of you people who had elected you to serve them to the best of your ability. Do not be detered by those with Tribalist agenda or those who display hatred or enmity against our great nation at every chance they get. And get on with the job of nation building as you have always done.
correction "continue to carry"
Silanyo looks asleep, and Mohammed Abdilahi looks more and more like his drunk brother who is registered disabled and fraudulenty drawing incapacity benefit in Broomhall Sheffield!
Do you have to hide behind a white guy's face…fradulent and cowardly
you spastic, i'm half Somali. How about you, another Abdi??? aka slave. Abdurahman, Abdulaziz, Abdulhakim, what the f is your name!!! Abdi hahahahahahahahaha
sxb whats the other half ?
Abdi2
The person by the name of Yusuf is a hooker (Daboole) from Qardo of Puntland. I know him personally, so don't waste your time with him.
you know me?
how do you know. uuf. get the hell out here. waryaa you don't think we're viewing comments and will remember it. what you wrote earlier. You try to converse with him and he told you go back to school and learn proper English. Before he can have any exchanges.now you saying don't waste your time. and the btw. he's a hooker and i know him personally. What does that make you. this sentence is for all putlanders. Don't mind him. he expose himself worst way. God when you're alcoholic and don't have control of your mind. This will happen to your more often.
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you-not your
Sahra calm down love, I wouldn't say again what Hoodo was calling you the other night, and accept my sincere apology for that incident. As for Yusuf, I'm no lying but what I have said about him is true, for I live in a same city that he lives and of course, he isn't the man of the picture. Anyway, if he comes back with his BS, I will expose all his particulars, including full name, his sub sub subclan etc.
Shoot son……
shoot
@ Maacaleesh
Where are you????
We have such bad leaders!!!
They talk about democracy but all i hear when you don’t agree is Issaq this and Darood are sh*t !
They’re Quick to get tribal when things get sour
Ignore them, they are ignorant offspring of asylum seekers. They all go off to Hargesia in the summer and are quick to leave Somaliland in September when the child benefit runs out. The people back home are not as bad as the people on this website.
One thing is true you will find every clan in hargeysa because CLAN talk is seen as primitive and local people will simply getup and walk away from you the moment you start talking clan-politics.
Best place for clan-politics is the UK(Midlands) even in the USA people are a little ashamed to openly discuss clanism.
Areas of least clanism = Where Hawiye people live.
Areas of clan redlight districts = Where ever the people demonstrating against Hassan Mahamoud live
Are you calling names or state the issues you believe in. You are nothing but a want to be trash, as a Somalilander, we do not have time for the like of you garbage.
Diplomacy is as much an art form as it is a social science. No two people ever have the same appreciation of it's various delicacies.
The message was clear in a democracy pluralism is a reality. A leader does always welcome complements and seldom appreciates criticism however the critics are advised to opt for constructive instead of destructive executions and preserve the greater good of the people.
As far as dialogue process is concerned it is a progressive trajectory for both States and both political stances (Independence -Vs- Union).
18-May-1991 Re-independence of Somaliland-Republic is non-negotiable. Only another referendum where the Majority in Somaliland-Republic demand a Reunion can overturn that decision.
True independence by its own virtue is no-negotiable and normally is not in dispute. The difficulty only arises when we talk about an independence and sovereignty that does not actually exist. Somalia is one country and cannot be divided and dismembered on the whim of resentful and misguided separatists who want to create a country that does not exist in reality.
While respecting your freedom of speech i would like to clarify a simply truth.
Somali-Republic formed as a result of the UNION between 2-states = Somaliland & Somalia.
1. Why is the UNION renamed Somalia?
Was Somaliland annexed?
Conquered?
2. Is UNION a COMPULSION?
If Somaliland joined freely should they not be able to leave freely?
If the Majority in Somaliland demanded UNION1960
is it not equal to Majority demanding INDEPEDENCE1991?
3. If the UNION has become an ANNEXATION will you continue to still support it?
– Will the rights of the majority be respected in accordance with democratic values?
– Will a New referendum satisfy those skeptical of Somaliland's Majority aspiration?
4. What is the benefit of the UNION to Somaliland?
– Somaliland joined as part of dream of Somaliweyn to include Djibouti, Kilil and NFD…
– Somaliland accepted a 33% share in the Union since other regions were expected to soon join however since the other 3-regions did not join Somaliland remained with it's 33% until 1969 when they lost even that.
– Capital was in Somalia
– Presidents were all from Somalia 1960 – 1991.
– To add insult to injury the Country name was changed to Somalia instead of Somali-Republic.
– Full independence is greater then 1/3 share or status Annexed state.
SELL me the benefits of UNION?
– Can UNIONISTS accept the President being from Somaliland the next 100years?
– Can UNIONISTS accept 66% of State assets belonging to Somaliland the Next 100years?
– Can UNIONISTS accept all senior Security personally belonging to Somaliland the next 100years?
– Can UNIONISTS accept 66% of all Foreign Ambassadors belonging to Somaliland the next 100years?
– Can UNIONISTS accept 66% of all development being allocated to Somaliland the next 100years?
in addition…
Can Unionists accept Somaliland-Republic's dissolution of the Such a Reunion with immediate effect by achieving 51% Majority in a Somaliland-Republic held Referendum at any point in the foreseeable future? Resulting in a 2-state solution adopting the territorial borders of 26-Jun-1960?
REALITY:
– INDEPENDENCE is a Democratic RIGHT!
– UNION is a NATIONALISTIC SENTIMENT!
– INDEPENDENCE is CHOICE…
– UNION is a negotiated AGREEMENT…
– Independence liberates from bondage
– Union is submission to bondage
I have no idea what benefit Somalia gets from UNION with Somaliland… it will cost money, effort and the potential conflicts that will return us all into another 22-years of failure. Unless Somalia can once again achieve an arrangement where Somaliland is treated like an annexed state without rights.
Independence is beneficial to both states in the foreseeable future… Amiin
What is your solutions to the people in Sool, Sanaag and Cayn, Awdal that do not want anything to do with your tribal project? Do they have a say in not joining this Habar Awal project?
The population in Awdal, Sool, Sanaag and Cayn are welcome to exercise their democratic RIGHTS…
Just the same way the population of Bari, Nugaal, Mudug, hiraan, Shabelle, Juba, Bandir etc are also able to exercise their democratic rights!
Without Justice we are all doomed for ever and as a such we must treat everyone as we would like to be treated. We must also use international LAWS and charters to help us along the way to establish mutually beneficial solutions to all those concerned. STATEHOOD and STATE borders are concepts already established and in use across the world and Africa in particular.
The AU charter of statehood and state borders is based on the non-negotiability of a state border from those borders created during the colonial era. http://www.myweku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/…
Somalia – Italia colonial borders
Somaliland – British colonial borders.
Somali-Republic = Union of 2-states as equals in the Union and in pursuit of the other 3-regions.
Union has failed it is thus the RIGHT of the people of both states to have dialogue to decide their future relationship.
Union -Vs- Independence MUST be the choice of the respective populations without COMPULSION.
– Majority wish in Somaliland & Somalia created the 1960-UNION.
– Majority wish in Somaliland created the 1991-Re-INDEPENDENCE.
In 1960 Minority voices in Sool, Sanaag, Awdal, Saxil, Salil, Cayn, Hawd, Saraar, Maakhir, Oodweyne, Garoodi, Gabiley and Togdheer WERE against the UNION but since the Majority voice was overwhelming the country respected the choice.
Unless you have an alternative proposal which works i am nor sure what exactly you could possibly want if you refuse democratic majority vote??? Because anything else is cause for total anarchy and another 22-years of wars.
If the Majority choose Union then something offered by the Union is more attractive to the Majority… this is how civilized people make decisions. I am welcome any other alternatives that you may wish to share with us… please if you may?
Awaiting your solution.
You contradicting yourself. You using territory majority/minority system in the south while you are using a region majority/minority system in north-west. If in the south, everyone is aloud to represent and choose the future for their territories, then surely in north-west it applies that too. In that case you do not represent Khaatumo or Awdal, nor do you have the right to choose for them. Because those territories are not yours. Simple.
Dude Sool and Sanaag are multi-clan regions if the Majority there choose to be represented by Somaliland-independence camp instead of somaliland-union camp it is not me denying anything it is you refusing to see sense and accept the choice of the majority.
I say hold an Honest referendum and give everyone the choice to vote…
What do you say?
No that's not true.
what I am really pissed off is those hawiye elders who sit around doing nothing while the Isaaq bragging propaganda continues. The hawiya will only wake up when PIS military fires scud missiles against in galmudug.
Save your weapons for SHEIK Atomic.
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For those of you who continue thinking Somaliland will crumple or fail, I have a bad news for you guys, there will no enemies too big enough to stop Somaliland from moving forward. You can call us any names or throw insult or two at us, we are here to stay as a Country forever. The people of this great nation called Somaliland has reached a final decision twenty something years ago, nothing, I say nothing, will stop us.
For those of you whose nationality was originally from Somaliland and today are standing for distraction of Somaliland, you will be left in the dust, unless you come to your senses and ride the development and peace train called Somaliland with us.
So you admit there are Somalanders that are not secessionist. I see your slowly find the truth.
Whether he admits or not, we're here and we got nothing to do with their dream. So they can go and travel to the moon if they want to. We just not coming and no amount gun and will deter us. we Somalis and we believe Somalia republic with all the difficulties and adversity this nation has gone through and will go through in the future. Because still Worth fighting for and stick our neck out and till eternity.
But still there is nothing you can do to stop Somaliland. You are just wasting your time on the impossible. Love Somaliland or leave it!
Ali Khalif Galydh's uncle was among those totally against the 1960UNION… but the Majority Isaaq, Darood and Dir were for the Union so it happened. The Minority who did not want the 1960 Union like Lai Khalif Galydh's Uncle Jama Garaad was simply told Laaaa Yaaa Garaaad.
Today the Majority is again saying Laaa Yaaa Garaad to Re-Union. It is a question of benefits. There is no benefit to Somaliland in another Union.
1960 Union = All 5 Somali regions.
Today Union = Somaliland & Somalia ONLY no thank you.
Somaliland people have more relatives in Hawd and Kilil then Somalia. Where as Somalia population have more relatives in Dadaab and Dollo Ado and Kenya in general.
UNION is a fraud and we will concluded our affairs as civilized people…
Somaliland indeed will not crumble or fail but its your secessionist hostage takers that will
Majority Vote is in favor of Full independence are you refusing our democratic RIGHT?
Will Amisom help you abuse our rights?
Then respect at least the choice of the Majority… everything else is out of your hands. If majority choose UNION, the Minority will learn to just shut up and accept another Union.
All other useless discussions will only create Hate between Somali people.
Come on IRIR SAMAALE you be the first to admit you will respect the choice of the MAJORITY… everything will be alright i promise… have faith
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President Mohamed Yusuf Indha-Sheel is the real president of North Somalia
Truth10
they do look stressed and weary.
They look indeed, because they don't know how to get out of this hole. They've never expected things to turn this way when they started the fabricated storyline.
Sweet and to the point…..Somaliland is on a trajectory to achieve its goals, nothing stands in the way of the "Will of the People" as any other Democracy out there. We stand behind you Honourable President.
More like ''will of your family'', hahaha. And it is for that reason why it will never work mate.
Everyone in that press conference is Is@@q, so what democracy are you talking about? It seems that the people of the little triangle (consisting Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera called Waqooiyi galbeed and north-west Toogdheer) have hold amongst them, a press conference, referendum and elections. And yet they claim lands and its people who never participated or endorsed the whole secession agenda. I advice you before things get really ugly in the future, stick to your triangle land and call it whatever you want. Or give up this dead fairytale pursue.
Liar10 Why you reduce Somaliland to Issaq ? Because It is main clan living in this territory so why u don t say anything to Issa rule in Djibouti??? Now Somalia will be rule for a while by Hawiye so faqash get used to live in Hawiyeland. Province of Kil 5 is a Darood domination rule but other somali accept it. Why Somalia still refusing again fair referendum under IC supervision in Somaliland from Zeila to Sool ?? Because Walanweyn and Faqah know majority wishes for independence simple..No more BS somalinimo love.
So what Isaaq are the majority?
Majority rule and minority rights are protected!
Look at Juba Ogadeen is Majority if the Choice of the majority is ignored and the President is given to a BAJUNI person there will be WAR.
Look at Muuqdishu Abgaal have the Mayor and 15 of 16 district governors are Hawiye… Imagine a Mj person as the Mayor? he will be car bomed like Abdullahi Yusuf and exiled to Yemen.
Look at Gerowe MJ will never let a Dhulos person sit on the Presidents chair.
Look at Galmudug can there be a Marexaan President?
Look at Bakool or Bay can the Majeerteen get back their farms and land… for get about being a Mayor?
Majority will always rule… and if puntland says they want to break away tough shit Muuqdishu cannot do anything to stop them apart from dismissing Saaqid Shirtdoon and giving PM to Majeerteen… I expect this to happen in a method that cannot be claimed to make them appear the spoilers.
The only reason why the autonomous region of somaliland wont get independence is that international community are scared of major clans being piss off, which would create the beginning of ww3
IC are saying if s/land goes, then p/land/khatumo will declare indepence
so as hawiyeland
kilil , nfd too
remember djabouti is free under ciise
@Buuxiye86p
stop barricading yourself inside in your tribal Isaaq majority enclave there's tons of good places to visit in Somalia. I am Mj and being living in hargeysi since 2007 and have a beautiful and adorning Issaq wife. what will you gain of dividing somali people anyway?
sxb appreciate somalia a truly a beautiful country.
Punt i am stuck in the diaspora… i wish to go home and i don't trust the people who used state Airforce to burn my home. 🙁
Do you wish i did the same to your house?
Something needs to change and someone needs to think different tit-4-tat wars destroyed your country.
I am glad you can enjoy democracy in Hargeysa i don't trust Bossasso, Gerowe or Galkaciyo to walk around care free.
D-Block
Somaliland has distinct Territorial borders with which it gained independence 26-Jun-1960.
Other regions like Kilil or NFD gaining independence is a good thing, i want to see our people free from colonialism.
3 Seats in the UN, AU and Arab league would make it easier.
Lets be honest, your enemy will always respect you, 26-06-1960, the British gave the independence not to isaakland but to the freedom fighters aka DERVISH cavalries
the real oppnent of the british empire.
and its they who dont want one clan separetist since when the whole of lands of Somali people oppose it 90%
Well said, but sadly, separatists like him will never ever admit that. Let them live in their fairytale dream.
As a matter of fact, the IC chose finally to expose them by threatening their leaders with exposure. Their kinsmen President was told in UK, that they will expose him and many in his government of their support and funding of Al-shabaab if they fail to cooperate with the south. He was also threatened with terrorists charges, genocide against Khaatumo and in Awdal state. He was shocked, and he changed his tone when he went back in Somaliland. Hahaha. Their lies of democracy, referendum BS is over mate.
Listen guys the issue is you are opposing Somaliland's independence in favor of the fraud Union in Muuqdishu.
Sharif and Hassan both see Somalilanders as foreigners.
Somaliland politics is not perfect but the opportunity presented as an Equal state to Somalia is beneficial to us all.
I believe you are short changing yourselves when you believe you are better off in Somalia then in somaliland. In addition you are accepting that Somaliland is inferior to Somalia.
When even Puntland is attempting to escape from Abgaal domination and they realized that their muuqdishu properties will never be returned they want to declare full independence.
It will become more painful for Darood, Dir, Isaaq and Xamar-cadcad when their stolen properties get redeveloped and are being traded for $1million. I do not believe anyone has any documentation of their properties since everyone was running for their lives as the Mooriyaans murdered, raped and stole even the toilet paper from people's houses.
It is my believe Harti can get their rightful share much easier by engaging in peaceful negotiations within Somaliland. Fracturing Somaliland into clan federation will never bring back the 1960-UNION. That UNION became a reality because Many Isaaqs, Harti and Dir sacrificed everything they had for Somalinimo. 5-Somali regions must be protected equally if we are going to ever find a solution.
Hassan sheikh and the rest of the south Somali always referred Somaliland as Maamul goboleed, never a foreign entity. Again BS fabricated accusations.
Allemagan,
You will fail and fail in a big way. Somaliland will not listen to anyone except it's people who will support until we get what we want. Somaliland was a different entity and has never been part of Somalia before the failed union, and I know you [Wanlaweyn] cannot live without Somaliland, because of the problem you have as a people. You cannot go together as Daarood and Hawiye, and you need someone to be your referee, but that is not forthcoming.
Somaliland will make sure it's borders be manned very soon, and whoever comes to try stupid things will face and feel the music in a big way.
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
WE DON'T WANT YOU NO REFEREE NEED IT WE SHALL OVER COME WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
Calm down Sahra, there is always hope. I'm sure you will get the right man from Somaliland and laugh back at the lonely days of single-motherhood. I'm sure your favorite Somaliland knight is on his way on his white horse just hold on.
Hassan
I will become mother one day god willing but I'm not today.the other thing I was wonder is. do you guys see a lot single mother in your household. because that's only thing you guys know.
Let me say one more time. We do not want rule anyone.You can seek happiness however you see fit but where we concern.We just want be left alone.We have no problem with Somalia the period .
Hassan
Well said dear kkkkkkk
Hoodo
You stupid low life. It wasn't even a day ago when you crying and couldn't handle the little conversing we were having it and you thru your hands up and were waving your white handkerchief and all indication with anyone who has a brain was you were surrendering. It's obvious you want more.So why don't I give you straight.I don't have use third person to throw none effective jab.because only cowards do that , Me on the other hand god has given me plenty of guts to say what I want to say to you with out assistant.All the thing he said is you that's why you can related to what he said on top of that you have no hope of attracting anyone due to your old age.Therefore you assume everyone is traveling same road you're.That's what makes you feel better and forget about your sorry existence.
**were
See ? I told you when things get sour There is no more somaliland but only Issaq VS Darood&hawiye ! Deep down they know the truth that is Somaliland was made by and for Issaq. they Will never recognize any other clan as A True Fellow somalilander=====> Harti darood understood that a long Time before !
Well said Omer, We ar not against Somalia, but We do not want to share anything with them. No more oppression and no one else will ever rule people of Somaliland!
Somaliland loves Silanyo. Go Silanyo go!
I am not a psychologist but this picture above DOES NOT look good. they all look worry,lost,don't know what to do, woking alarm ringing every where.
probably saw faroole's fat black @SS
kabuun,
They probably saw what the reality is, and kaboon single mother chewing mirre somewhere dark streets in london.
This is a project that is managed by the supporters of Satanic National Movement and has nothing to do with the rest of the people that live in the now defunct British Somaliland. That Somaliland and the I**aqland of today are not even related let alone being the same. Did you know Puntland political offices are being opened in Sanaag (minus Ceel Afweyn) yet you continue to claim it. See how idiotic you guys are?
kkkkkk typical darood scum, all talk and no action. We could walk into garowe tomorrow if we want but you sit here talking about darood offices in sanaag.KKKKKKKK
long live silaanyo
FOR THE SEPARATISTS!!!
Guy's, your spokesman Buuxiye just said this: ''Majority rule and minority rights are protected!
Look at Juba Ogadeen is Majority if the Choice of the majority is ignored and the President is given to a BAJUNI person there will be WAR''.
You see, he and all of you contradicting yourself.
You using territory majority/minority system in the south, while you are using a region majority/minority system in north-west. If in the south, everyone is aloud to represent and choose the future for their territories, then surely in north-west it applies that too. In that case, you do not represent Khaatumo or Awdal, nor do you have the right to choose for them. Because those territories are not yours. Simple.
You see, no matter how clever your spokesman tries to be, he can never hide the separatists hoax.
Wrong one, ignore it. Reply to the other one. cheers
TRUTH USE what ever means you like…
1960 – 2-Sovereign states formed the UNION.
Without the Majority from both state interested in a REUNION it is not going to happen.
Would you settle for another Somaliland-Republic Referendum to settle the issue once and for all???
FOR THE SEPARATISTS!!!
Guy's, your spokesman Buuxiye just said this: ''Majority rule and minority rights are protected! Look at Galmudug can there be a Marexaan President''?
You see, he and all of you contradicting yourself.
You using territory majority/minority system in the south, while you are using a region majority/minority system in north-west. If in the south, everyone is aloud to represent and choose the future for their territories, then surely in north-west it applies that too. In that case, you do not represent Khaatumo or Awdal, nor do you have the right to choose for them. Because those territories are not yours. Simple.
You see, no matter how clever your spokesman tries to be, he can never hide the separatists hoax.
How about a Full Referendum to see what the people on the ground want?
REUNION -Vs- RECOGNITION
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A tribal referendum referendum yes. I'm sure it will appear then that only one tribe as usual will be pro secession, and the rest are against. That is called majority.
No …
In 1960 Somaliland-Republic took it's independence as a UNITED state to form the UNION.
The Majority in Somaliland held their conferences in Boorame and Burco and there was an overwhelming Majority in favor of Full independence.
By claiming independence is a Purely a clan ideology you only delay the process and you also reject the legitimate rights of the Isaaqs who are pro-Union.
Both Unionists and Secessionists are Multi-Clan…
The question then is who holds Majority? the same way the Majority pushed their agenda in 1960 to create the UNION.
Do you trust the Unionists to win a Majority vote across somaliland???
You see, you keep spitting BS, in the hope that your BS wins grounds. Let's look at the visible evidence, here you have Khaatumo literally fighting, and Awdal spreading their denouncement against secession openly. On the other side, here we have you claiming that the the pro secessions are multi clans. Well if that was the case, then answer me only this question. Why was your President only welcomed by his clan in UK, and everywhere he goes? President Hassan sheikh was welcomed by more than 2 thousand Somalis, and Silanyo, not more than 20, and they were all his kinsmen. Hahaha
Plus, have you not heard what your President was told in UK? They threatened him and many in his Government, with terrorists charges, genocide against Khaatumo and in Awdal state. He was shocked, and he changed his tone when he went back in Somaliland. Hahaha. Your lies of democracy, referendum BS is over mate. Continue your dream on the internet, because on the ground it's is over.
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Be Honest with yourself…
Will a Country wide referendum satisfy your curiosity on Majority view with regards to
UNION-vs-INDEPENDENCE?
1960- 2-state united their territories voluntarily… Division will always be along those same borders of 1960.
I say stand for something and respect Majority vote across the sovereign borders of Somaliland.
You have no better option.
Mate you keep contradicting yourself, and discrediting your self. If you want referendum, like I said let's do a tribal referendum, whereby the tribes in north-west are asked each whether they want secession or not. Obvipusly you don't want that, because you know the result. Plus, have you not heard what your President was told in UK? They threatened him and many in his Government, with terrorists charges, genocide against Khaatumo and in Awdal state. He was shocked, and he changed his tone when he went back in Somaliland. Hahaha. Your lies of democracy, referendum BS is over mate. Continue your dream on the internet, because on the ground it's is over.
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We can continue to delve in fantasy or face the reality.
1. I do not believe you or your disgruntled diaspora alike have a genuine political objective to better the lives of anyone.
2. Contrary to your wishful thinking Harti, Dir and Gabooye Majority have invested in the peace of Somaliland and it's progress.
Harti business men would rather invest their money in Hargeysa rather then Buhoodle. The only place in Somaliland where there are suicide attacks or assassinations happens to be the border with Somalia's Bari and Nugaal gobols.
The Harti of eastern Somaliland willingly support the political objectives of Somaliland-Republic and as a matter of fact those who wish to deny their rights are the likes of you that seem to believe you have the right to speak for all Harti even when the Majority support Somaliland-Republic.
If Clan referendums are permitted across Somaliland there is nothing stopping it happening in Somalia. Such a process is counter productive. There were 2-Legitimate Sovereign states that Joined to form the Somali-Republic as such only a 2-state dialogue process is required to address the conflict between Somalis.
I am sure asking the Bajuuni to hold a referendum within Somalia is about as illegitimate as permitting Harti-referendum within Somaliland that is the reality my friend.
If it makes you happy i can agree to a Clan-referendum but we both know in reality it will never happen so let us discus practical objectives and legitimate aspiration instead of RANTING for the sake of it.
LOL, keep barking BS Buuxiye. It will not hurt anyone but you in the end of the day.
misslovely · 16 hours ago
faqash are useless mother f@@@@r@s i am asking myself why are they on this website if they don't like us these animals with the human shape make me sick i ask allah swc to wipe them off from the earth
we dont oppose threat to isaak created somaliland consisting of north-western, 2-thirds of togdheer with awdal if necessary, but we dont entertain a colonial borders created by the enemy of somali nation my friend
BUUXIYE, you sound like knowledgeable person, but independence for northern-somalia
purposed by ONE CLAN ( isaak ) is off the table. accept the reality.
this is my final time being here in this website, because i think this site is like puntland sites aka sub-clans of the Harti puntland or hiiraan or jubooyinka etc.
THIS WEBSITE IS CREATED BY SUB-CLAND OF ISAAK AKA THE SECESSIONIST NOT THE MAJORITY.
Truth and D-block…
There are many people who want to go back home and be able to drive their Jeep from Djibouti to kismanyo to the Garisa in peace. Brothers for that happen there needs to be some common sense approach to address the border disputes and future conflicts.
Internationally recognized border and backed by the AU charter:
– Hassan Mahamoud has accepted the territorial claims of Ethiopia and Kenya accoding to Colonial borders structure and i do not see why Somaliland & Somalia need to have issues over borders.
– Hassan Mhamaoud has accepted the Territorial sovereignty of Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya therefore i do not see why he cannot accept the territorial integrity of Somaliland based on AU charter of state borders.
– Hassan Mahamoud has travelled to the Capitals of Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya respecting their Presidents as an equal.
Somaliland has done more in the spirit of Somalinimo to build Unity in 1960 and if Hassan has any Sense he will accept that true peace lies with a return to the 26-Jun-1960 borders.
Without peace Ethiopia and Kenya will continue to accelerate ahead of Somalis in development and infrastructure. In war there is limited freedom of movement between the various authorities…
We need peace not more wars… Somaliland-Republic full recognition is the only path to peace.
Folks..the truth hurts..Somaliland is gaining fame and IC actors attention.
The Somaliland quest is pushed upfront. Woes to all the grasshopper tears and kudos
to all the foxtrot smarties.
Cheers.
LOL, gosh, you need to stop for your own health reasons, this fairytale believe. For 20+ years you haven't moved one inch forward, in fact you going down. The only last hope you had to your dreams was Awdal state, and even they have spoken out. Now you are left in the dark, chanting and debating your view without the support of the other two states (Khaatumo & Awdal states). Honestly you claim to democracy will be laughed at from now.
your claim**
I love how khatumoseeg always wants to get my reer inabti all in this mess reer awdal are pro Somaliland heck they are some of the most die hard Landers! Like my maternal grandfather said, dha dhood are soo xasid and full of greed no one can trust them. With Ga d abirsi Somaliland they make up a powerful minority, they have had a president and probably will have another one again, they have peace and really good schools. Why would they give that up to be a non existent minority? Evening putting them in the same sentence as khatumoseeg is an insult to their intelligence, this is a game of chess mof o not checkers!
First they said, majority Khaatumos are pro union, and now they claim Awdal are with them. Hahahahaha. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Truth10 exactly, From Jiidali to outskirts of Burco it belongs to Khaatumo state. population wise Isac are the Majority in waqooyi Somalia in terms of Land scale they're minority.
Sanaag/ Harti Majority
Sool/ Harti Majority
Awdal Gadaburisi Majority
Togdheer/ Isac Majority
W/Galbeed/ Isac Majority.
Buuxiye Puntland president after AUN Abdullahi yusuf was Dhulbahante, since the formation of Puntland until now, Dhulbahante was either president or Vice President. bare in mind Dhulbahante built puntland just like any other Harti clan.
If Somaliland is "multi tribe" and "peaceful" as you claim why is Awdal and Khatuumo separating lol! Why? Because any rationale human being knows so called Somaliland is actually Isaac-land and that's why IC are not taking you serous and never will.
Well said our people are bringing back the lost somali pride.
Udhashay Khaatumo
1. 1960 2-states Formed the UNION.
2. 1991 1-state unilaterally left the UNION.
The Reality is Somaliland-Republic entered the UNION as 1-political body with it's territorial integrity and as such the only solution is to Conduct a REFERENDUM across Somaliland-Republic.
If the MAJORITY vote for UNION then so be it.
If the MAJORITY vote for Independence so be it.
The people of Awdal, Sool, Sanaag, Maakhir, Cayn, Hawd, Gabiley, Salil, Saraar, Saxil, Odweyne and Garoodi should be given the opportunity to decide their future?
Can we agree to respect MAJORITY rule???
Buuxiye you said: ''The people of Awdal, Sool, Sanaag, Maakhir, Cayn, Hawd, Gabiley, Salil, Saraar, Saxil, Odweyne and Garoodi should be given the opportunity to decide their future?''
BRO, THEY ALREADY DID, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE SEPARATISTS. YOU JUST CAN'T ACCEPT IT.
Can we be real?
The only Referendum in Somaliland voted 96% for independence.
Bro if you wish to claim a President that was SELECTED with 190bought votes that is your choice.
You do not speak for the Majority within Somaliland territorial borders for if you did we would not be having this discussion.
Either respect Majority vote and that is Somaliland Majority ro come up with an alternative acceptable to all concerned.
Xagalatoosiey who was once a rebel leader has accepted the peace process. It is diaspora folks like you who refuse to accept facts.
Mate, that President that was selected with 190 votes, was voted by all the tribes. And he had the support of all the tribes in the south. From Rass-caseyr to Raskamboni, he was congratulated and endorsed. And your so called 96% votes President, was only welcomed where ever he went, by his tribe / kinsmen. No other tribe in that region has endorsed him. So your 96% percent has less credibility than Hassan's 190 votes, because he was publicly endorsed from Rass-caseyr to Raskamboni when he was elected.
Buuxiye
Since Somalia is technically one and Somaliland is not official country, why don't we have a REFERENDUM across Somali republic, what are you afraid of ? If the MAJORITY vote for separation then who are we to refuse? but what we will Never accept is referendum across North Somalia (former British S/L) Regional referendum YES (Sool/Sanag/Cayn) will have their own referendum) anything else is myth and won't work 🙂
as for Xaglotosiye, isn't Fowzia few months ago championing for separation and had her own political party?
LOL I'm all up for a referendum across Somali republic :). But never a referendum amongst Is@@q, to determine the future of north-west Somalia
Round-1
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Sharif Sheikh Ahmed————64
Hassan Sheikh Mohamud—–60
Abdiweli Mohamed Ali———–30
Abdiqadir Osoble Ali————-27
Round-2
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Hassan Sheikh Mohamud—–190
Sharif Sheikh Ahmed————–79
It was a Road-Map affair Legitimate only within the Road-map territory! Under Sharif 70% of financial funds that reached his government has been acknowledged as Missing and siphoned. How much money will go missing in the next 4years? How many roads will be built in Sool and Sanaag with that money?
Smell the Qaxwa bro… Defend those who have something to offer you.
mr buuxiye, the only hope for s/land politicians is hold on to godubiirse majority of awdal region since dolbahante dominated area of sool, sanaag and southern-togdheer declared federal member state within these regions
Buuxiye, monitoring group chief Matthew Bryden wife is Is@@q, did you knew? Of course you knew, but you thought I or anyone would never found out ha? LOL. Mate, you separatists used every tool you could use to destroy Somalia. You created Al-shabaab, spread lies and rumours. And despite of all of that, Somalia survived, and is haunting you back.
F******ck UncleTomLand aka Somaliland, Even your mother the Queen don't want you
Boss and udhashay khaatumo,
People swear when they lost healthy argument and its called defence mechanism! ugh. I wonder where ar those Somalilandpress control people? What a shame !
tell your president to change his name SIIL-yaanyo shame on you
faqash are useless mother f@@@@r@s i am asking myself why are they on this website if they don't like us these animals with the human shape make me sick i ask allah swc to wipe them off from the earth
Nacala xayaatag ina nacala ab**k. she's using mighty Allah name for the death and destruction of whole community.
Sahra, don't worry missluvey she is full drunk i know her.
If you believed in Allah, you would have never asked Allah to assist you with evil agenda of yours. Therefore it will be reversed to you insha Allah, since we never wished it upon you in the first place :).